Vietnam tourism, social media and the Big Bang Boy
Posted: February 26, 2012 | Author: Steve Jackson | Filed under: Blogs and Bloggers, change, Reflections, Social Media, travel | Tags: cheating, seo, social media, tourism, vietnam | 4 Comments »My head has been whirring this week – a mess of thoughts that, hopefully, once down on “paper” will start to make more sense.
First up is Vietnam’s tourism. Trashed by the Huff Post, defended in this laughable piece and with a new slogan launched I wonder just what does work these days. I remember assisting on a bid to brand Newcastle upon Tyne, slogan and all – always with Glasgow’s Miles Better as the good example – but now I’m pretty sure it’s a red herring.
In an age where we can share our travels so easily, being good at marketing isn’t as important as just being good. Vietnam shouldn’t look at ways to rid itself of the reputation for cheating and scamming – instead it actually has to get rid of the cheaters and scammers.
Don’t work out your excuses, reach the point where you no longer have to make them.
We’re less likely to be fooled by glossy mag ads or slogans or tv ads. We just want information. Malaysia Truly Asia may have rammed itself into our subconscious but does all that TV time equal that good a return on what must have been a massive investment?
Is advertising just an easy way to get rid of a budget in a way that the audience is easily measurable even if the effect isn’t? In the old days direct marketing (junk mail) was known to be hated by all but was kept on by marketeers for the exact same reasons.
At work my activities are split between heading the marketing communications for partnership programmes of the engagement and relationship bulding type and the cold hard challenge of sales, targets and all.
The days of leaflets and brochures are largely over but the future for advertising is less clear. If newspapers are not the future then are we better to advertise with Facebook? Or will all advertising never wield the power it once had?
Meanwhile, the picture above is the winning entry in an international art competition run by my employers. The story goes that the Vietnamese child artist spelled Big Ben wrongly but his “Big Bang” pic stole the hearts of judges. We released the story to the press and for some reason it has had legs like no other release I have ever written.
Boy’s mistake wins judge’s hearts. What did he really mean by “Big Bang”? Was he referring to a starter’s pistol, the fireworks of the opening ceremony or even Vietnam’s own breakneck development?
Probably none of the above and yet this seemingly slight story now has 1,400 results on Google and counting.
Vietnam’s cut and paste journalism, scammers stealing copy for sites earning from Google ads, social media and a nice image – they were enough to see this story reappear time and time again. On Thursday – a month after we released it, it made yet another sizeable piece, this time in VN Express. I can’t imagine how much it would have cost to buy this amount of space and yet we spent literally nothing on it.
So, trying to make sense of all of the above….
We can’t even fool some of the population some of the time anymore. There are too many people who will happily undermine our claims if we try to. We can’t pretend what’s bad is good. We can’t change reputations when the evidence doesn’t support us.
Forget blackhat SEO, forget spam, forget cheating of all kinds – do what you want to do well and then help people communicate how good you are it. If you’re the Intercontinental Hotel and you want people to say how good you are – then stop charging for the WIFI and let customers tweet pics of their hotel rooms for free.
If you’re having to engage SEO experts to push you up the Google rankings then ask yourself why aren’t your customers doing this for you by talking about you online? A large part of SEO appears to be about trying to cheat a system based on genuinely trying to gauge just how popular you are. In the end, if you’re not popular then perhaps it’s not Google’s fault.
Let people spread the word.
Pssst…Vietnam… stop blocking Facebook.
Businesses don’t be dumb. Buying Facebook or Twitter followers? Just how outrageously stupid is that? How does it make you look? Who are you fooling? You’re happy to have your brand associated with cheating? Really?
When your product is ready invite others to try it, taste it, visit it – target those with their own platforms and following. New media, old media, social media, bloggers, tweeters and journalists. All those who shout the loudest to the most listeners. Real voices with real opinions.
Assist them by providing honest but, hopefully, entertaining content that they can link to or embed. Make the information they need easily available. Answer their questions. All their questions.
Be creative – stories, pics, movies. Use them to tell your story. Don’t worry too much about what platforms *you* use, create content that people can share on the platforms *they* use.
It’s time we learned that it’s the consumers that have all the power now. We can’t trick them any more.
More importantly of all, we can’t be seen to be trying to trick them either.
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Happy 4th Twitter birthday to me
Posted: March 21, 2011 | Author: Steve Jackson | Filed under: Uncategorized | Tags: social media, tweets, twitter | Leave a comment »Looking back I had always assumed that my first tweets came straight outta Nicaragua but that timing means I was still in Hanoi at the time. I do recall Noodlepie preaching the way of the tweets while I was still ‘nam but I think my first forays were followed by the thoughts..so what?
In fact I do recall feeling like an outsider for the first couple of years on something that was used mostly by media techie types. In those days my arguments that there was nothing more boring to use tech for than to write about tech were often rolled out. They still are occasionally.
In Nicaragua, as it often was in the future, it became a way of passing the time and staying in touch despite limited communications. Later when I returned to Newcastle it was blocked in my office despite the fact that I was working in the comms department. Quite laughable now.
It was in Cameroon that I got to grips with it and started carrying a little more kudos on line. For whatever reason I found my view on all things social media being actively pursued more often – particularly from NGO workers. In bleak times there it was a friend.
Using Twitter, RSS and Flickr I set up assorted searches for any online mention of my host town “Bamenda”, part of me was looking for news but mostly I was looking for friends. To a large extent it worked and I was happy to volunteer my services to any likeminds visting town.
Back in Vietnam I got a job via Twitter, although one that didn’t work out in the end. I did talks for the World Bank, British Embassy and British Council on its use. The latter indirectly leading to the job I have now.
In my inbox are further requests from a local business group and a University to do the same.
That said, I feel like I am slowly withdrawing from it. Day by day I follow less people.
For me social media always used to be about promoting debate and, hopefully, winning arguments. That has been a radical shift for me. It’s proved a waste of time and old habits die hard but I’m trying to cut that out completely.
Four years old make me a mature tweeter and like old gadgies everywhere I care less about what others think and less about if what I said is quietly ignored or retweeted.
I’m also revising thoughts on what makes for effective Twitter use. One thing is clear is that by far the most successful accounts are personal ones. Tweeting on behalf of someone else doesn’t work. At all.
But what I have come to realise is there is no right or wrong way. Manning The Cart Twitter feed that pretty much just tweets the specials and responds when messaged has been an education. Sometimes people only sign up for the basics and that’s all they want. Nothing wrong with that.
Personally in many ways it has all gone full circle. My Dad signed up to Twitter recently and I increasingly tweet with him in mind. I share photos via Tumblr on my day to day life. On the other hand I feel less comfortable tweeting my blog updates than before – Vietnamblogs can do that for me.
I’ve no longer any pretensions about my writing. I blog because I enjoy it. You know where to find what I do. Likewise I don’t link my Twitter account to my work role any more – the pressure to be professional would be just too much.
So happy birthday to my Twitter self. Despite over 20,000 tweets and current thoughts about winding it all down – I still got way more out of it than I ever put it. Genuinely my life would have been radically different without it.
My advice remains that if you haven’t signed up to an account then you should.
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Well-written, funny, accurate, useful, meh, FAIL!
Posted: February 25, 2011 | Author: Steve Jackson | Filed under: expats, Food and drink, Reflections | Tags: expats, food, new hanoian, social media, the cart | 25 Comments »It has come to my attention that this post is one of a couple of posts on this blog being used to promote a personal attack on the people behind the New Hanoian. I wanted to distance myself from that and clarify that while I have a number of issues with the site and the culture it promotes I actually have a great deal of respect for its founders who I believe are good, well-meaning people. In addition, any problems I have with the site I have taken it up with them directly. My thoughts on this, and any other subject are always published with my name, Steve Jackson or occasionally versions of the Ourman name (possibly Ourmanwhere or Our Man in Hanoi).
Being so close to a Vietnamese business has been an eye opener.
To quickly recap, The Cart, a bakery, sandwich delivery, coffee shop etc is my wife’s place. She was originally in partnership with a very good and old friend who sadly died. She took it on and my assistance has been minimal – just a little bit of marketing here and there.
Vietnam is just so entrepreneurial that it’s easy to believe that doing business isn’t hard but it is. The very biggest problem is that your building can be taken away from you at a moment’s notice by the landlord. Build up a business and the plot becomes more valuable and you, seemingly, have more money to extract. Often too much of a temptation for a property owner.
Where do you start after that?
Recruitment is a nightmare in Hanoi. Anyone working in retail or hospitality will tell you the same. It’s hard enough to find people, even harder to retain them.
Decent kitchen equipment has to be imported. At Christmas we lugged back at 10 kilo juicer, paying 100 euros extra baggage for the privilege. It effectively added 30% to its price. We’ve travelled to Bangkok just to buy coffee cups.
Lose electricity for the day and half of what you can offer the customer is gone – not to mention the stock in the fridge than can be damaged.
In the rainy season a downpour can leave the whole place underwater. Constant building work in their alley, as in any other in Hanoi, means it’s difficult to keep the place free from dirt and dust.
In a wider business context there are tax shakedowns – a set amount regardless of income. Inflation is currently so rampant that while turnover is going up, profits are going down. Butter, a key ingredient of cakes, pies, pasties etc is now so valuable that blocks of the stuff in supermarkets have security tags. I kid you not.
Next week petrol goes up 24%. The Cart offers free delivery.
Over the near three years my wife has been in business she has built up an excellent staff. She had no intention of making it a family business but turned to two of her sisters when she failed to be able to recruit elsewhere. They have done her proud.
Alongside her another member of staff, who has long worked with my wife, has become family.
The newcomer is the young man who came in to do delivery. Unlike others before him he has stuck. He wants more money and more responsibility. He’ll get both in time.
Once when they had staffing issues I took a turn answering the phones. I was worse than hopeless. It turned out that so many of their customers were regulars that names and addresses were hardly needed when ordering lunchtime deliveries.
Teachers, office workers, NGO employees rang expecting to speak to my extremely capable wife and instead they got me, asking them to say that again or, worse still, spell it out.
But now we’ve reached a point where my wife no longer needs to put the pies in the oven herself at 7am as she can trust staff to open up for her. Just as well because when I get home in the evening she’s doing the books, or looking over recipes for the next day’s specials or chopping up veggies for soup.
Those regulars are a loyal bunch but I’ve also heard Loan and her sisters tell some horrific tales of customers.
One guy requests delivery across town and then regularly asks for a discount of a couple of thousand Dong once they arrive. On one occasion he swore poverty despite the fact that they could see the 100,000 Dong notes in his wallet.
Once my wife’s sister climbed up a dozen floors to deliver to an apartment because power meant the lifts weren’t working. A tip would have been nice. Thanks would have been great. They complained she was late.
It’s a successful business, although you could argue that it makes my wife a reasonable local living rather than an “international” one. It’s the kind of money volunteers would refer to as a stipend.
Personally I love the place. Now I’m working I miss mid morning coffees there. I miss being a customer rather than the bosses’ husband. Real customers get priority – I just get in the way.
For my wife there’s been no doubting the single hardest thing to deal with and that has been the New Hanoian. I say that despite knowing and liking the guys who set up the site and also realising that publicitywise The Cart has benefited far more than it has suffered.
When one reviewer said they had been in with their whole family and ordered meals and drinks and found, apparently, nothing was edible we were flabbergasted – not least because surely staff would remember that many left platefuls. We contacted them, they said perhaps it wasn’t last week after all. Maybe it was last month or the month before that.
Someone who didn’t know last weekend from three months earlier still apparently remembered enough details to publicly trash the place. And yet we still couldn’t work out when she might have eaten there. But the one star damning review remains.
One guy gave us one star because we wouldn’t deliver him a single $2 pie 5KMs to his house. Our website says we don’t do that – if we did we’d be out of business by now. But the review remains.
We always used to write to the negative reviews to try and explain and or apologise. We got the impression that they were embarrassed that we even noticed as all but one didn’t write back. I assume they thought that their criticism was playing to an expat crowd and that Vietnamese owners wouldn’t ever know – let alone call them on it.
Most recently someone who “knows a thing or two about falafels” because, apparently, he was from New York, slated The Cart version. We’d just added it permanently to the menu by genuinely popular request. It was gratifying when a regular suggested online that the original reviewer might be better off going back to New York.
Not that all less than positive reviews are unwarranted. We’re in the process of ordering new covers for the well-used furniture after an New Hanoian complained about our “cozy room”. They were right, it was looking a little shabby.
One reviewer gave us one out of five because our cakes weren’t as good as the (five star) Metropole. Expats can be brutal. To my mind we are so overly respectfully treated here that it’s easy to forget we aren’t experts at everything. My wife hates the fact that reviews regularly suggest that western entrepreneurs “deserve support” while Vietnamese aren’t afforded such a courtesy.
Despite all of the above The Cart averages a very solid four of of five and currently nestles at a very respectable 11th out of nearly 300 cafes listed throughout Hanoi. The Cart has some very very good reviews including one from me – back when I was just a customer who liked the look of the owner (and her cakes).
But we know it’s not for everyone. It’s cheap, fresh food, simply done, with little pretension. That is all.
I try to remind my wife that the places we like and frequent are often way below us on this league table and come in for even worse hammerings than us.
Like pretty much every expat in town I find the New Hanoian addictive reading, incredibly useful and frequently maddening. I used to review regularly, even gaining “elite status”. However since then I have seen tears, near-sackings, upset and whole weeks lost trying to get to the bottom of just why would someone say that – as a result of reviews. Well, I’ve lost the will to do that to anyone else.
After a hard week my wife would be in pieces from a review. I’d try to calm and reassure her despite being furious myself. I know the arguments in favour of it but it doesn’t stop it hurting. We reached a point where even positive reviews were a double edged sword because they’d inevitably spur someone else to mark us down. Perhaps they wanted to represent themselves as having higher standards than the previous reviewer.
One expat entrepreneur told me about his surprise and horror at being reviewed in this way.
“I’m not an actor,” he said. “I just want to run a shop.”
Even in this social media, peer-reviewing world – it’s a thought that has stayed with me.
Business isn’t easy. Not here, not anywhere.
But The Cart goes on.
Update: As the lunacy surrounding the issue posted at the top of the blog continues and as allegations become increasingly deranged (on whichever site) I’m switching off comments on this post as the last thing I want is for it to become another place for for and against factions to battle. Hopefully I can switch them on again once this blows over.
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Facebook, business and Facebook business in Vietnam
Posted: August 18, 2010 | Author: Steve Jackson | Filed under: Blogs and Bloggers, Hanoi, IT, Pics, work | Tags: facebook, OMIH Media, social media, work | 1 Comment »This picture started life on my new business website but I thought it deserved a wider audience.
A large ad referencing Facebook. That’s Facebook that is blocked in Vietnam. On the outside of a Hanoi police station.
Odd, though somehow, very Hanoi. More thoughts on this here.
So yes, there is now a business website with its own blog. And the new business is now named OMIH Media. This is as a direct result of Elliott from the New Hanoian repeatedly asking me if I’d had any more thoughts about what I wanted to call my business. He’d make a vague face when I shrugged and said “Our Man in Hanoi”.
“I suppose you could always use just the initials,” he replied in a way that suggested he thought I’d be a fool not to.
He had a point. Something more “grown up” was needed and OMIH Media was born. I had no problem previously with the Hanoi bit but the “man” grated. It almost felt like I was saying: “Out of the way, let The Man do this for you”.
Anyway, because I wanted to keep this blog for my more rambling Hanoi musings I’ve created the aforementioned website for my business.
Personally I think RSS is the key to the social media universe. But if you like to consume your blogs with a dash of Farmville and you’ve got your head around the DNS issues then I’m finally doing the Facebook thing. Go here for the FB OMIH Media page and here for the FB Our Man in Hanoi blog page.
Please feel free to join either.
Or just keep it here. And there.
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Facebook bikini pics
Posted: June 23, 2010 | Author: Steve Jackson | Filed under: Reflections | Tags: facebook, hot girls, pictures, social media | 3 Comments »A female Vietnamese friend recently returned from the beach.
I know this because she has posted several pictures of herself on Facebook. In the vast majority she is posing, for the want of a better word “provocatively”, in a bikini. These are not pics where she’s been snapped taking a swim, they’re reclining pouty shots.
A respectable lady in her mid twenties. She’s well educated and has a good job. I am guessing that many of the people she is friends with on Facebook are, like me, work associates.
More interested in the why of it, than the subject matter, I sent the link to a mutual female friend who has worked here a while.
I thought she’d give me a forthright view.
She didn’t disappoint:
Where I work every employee has a photo of themselves as their background.
Have you ever been on holiday with a big group of Vietnamese? All they do is take photos of themselves. Even really shy, normal balanced ones start bending over like Readers’ Wives Do Cao Bang every time they see a new rock, tree or piece of ground.
But why?
A little discussion later and we agreed that this wasn’t to impress people of the opposite sex. It wasn’t a proud-of-your-body/girl power thing either.
This, we decided, was just what young Vietnamese women do when they see a camera. They don’t take pictures because they are at the beach. They go to the beach because they want to take pictures.
Taking photos is an obsession further fuelled by the growth of social media and mobile phone cameras. Also by Vietnam’s so-called internet “hot girls” and the media’s endless obsession with beauty pageants.
It’s also a culture where, by sheer weight of numbers, the young have more power to shape societal norms than virtually anywhere else in the world.
It’s yet another factor to chuck into the mix when absolutely failing to come up with any precitions as to just what Vietnam will turn into.
This country moves just too fast to pin down.





